• jonwA
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    1 day ago

    Don’t certs just create an ephemeral key pair that disappears after the session anyhow? What does cert validity period have to do with “This is a big upgrade for the security of the TLS ecosystem because it minimizes exposure time during a key compromise event.”

    I mean, it’s LE so I’m sure they know what their talking about. But…?

    • @jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      91 day ago

      compromising a keypair is a huge win. lets you impersonate the domain. shorter validation periods = smaller windows of compromised situations.

      basically the smaller you make the window the less manual intervention and the less complicated infrastructure gets. currently TLS systems need a way to invalidate certificates. get them down to a day and suddenly that need just disappears. vastly simplifying the code and the system. 6 days is a huge improvement over 90 days.

      • jonwA
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        220 hours ago

        Ok, I slid right by the “compromised” word. Makes sense now.

        • @jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          17 hours ago

          you mean you slid right on by an understanding of how security infrastructure works. since one always assumes credentials will be compromised.

          • jonwA
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            08 hours ago

            I mean I just missed that part.

    • @frezik@midwest.social
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      219 hours ago

      The key pair you’re thinking of is just a singular key for a block cipher. That key needs to be generated/transmitted in a secure manner. Meaning that its security is dependent on the cert. The expiration time of that cert is what they’re aiming at.

    • @treadful@lemmy.zip
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      51 day ago

      I’m far from an expert on PKI, but isn’t the keypair used for the cert used for key exchange? Then in theory, if that key was compromised, it could allow an adversary to be able to capture and decrypt full sessions.

      • jonwA
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        420 hours ago

        No. Perfect Forward Secrecy (ephemeral keys) prevents this type of replay.

      • @snowfalldreamland@lemmy.ml
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        51 day ago

        Im also not an expert but i believe since there Is still an ephemeral DH key exchange happening an attacker needs to actively MITM while having the certificate private key to decrypt the session. Passive capturing wont work